Wednesday, April 09, 2008

I'm not sure how I feel about my ambiguity..

In the past couple of weeks,there have been two tragic instances locally,of children that managed to get their hands on guns that were kept in the home.
In one case,a ten year old boy accidentally killed his best friend with a shotgun, and in the other,a toddler was playing with her father's pistol.

I promise.

No,this is more about my own personal struggle.
My natural instinct to leap to the defense of our right to keep and bear arms,in the face of this particular kind of tragedy.

I know intellectually,that the right to bear arms really wasn't put there to protect us against random acts of fuckery,perpetrated by the occasional sociopath.
It was put there specifically to protect us against the deliberate,and systematic abuses of a government that might very well come under control of they that would be kings.

Revolution,in such a scenario,is a moral imperative that our founding fathers recognized might surely become necessary in our continuing battle to let loose the bonds of tyranny.
A noble purpose indeed!

..but our children are dying,and I don't know what to do.

Then I thought,'Well,guns are a fact of life in this country..A sound pre-emptive measure might be to instruct our school children in firearm safety!'

Then I heard a voice.
No,not the one where Allison Janney is imploring me to come home,if not for her,then for the sake of the kids,but the voice of the multitude of citizens appalled at the idea of weapons training being part of their beloved child's elementary curriculum.
'If it only saves one child's life!'..I might argue.
..Until some hormonal teenager decides to apply his new found expertise in a crowded school cafeteria.

You can see my dilemma.

Should I continue,as always,to support and defend the Constitution of the United States?
Should I lobby for the removal of just one of our guaranteed liberties??
Should I give Allison another chance???
..I just don't know.


At 5:38 PM , Blogger jan said...

I think you should continue, but on the other hand maybe you should lobby. At any rate Allison deserves another chance.Maybe.

Hope this helps.

At 6:01 PM , Blogger Danielle said...

This is a tricky topic for me.

In the current[police] state of our Union, part of me knows that we must hold on to our right to keep and bear arms.

You make a great point about education.

If children were taught not to touch or play with guns by their schools and most importantly by their parents it would make a difference.

If gun owners properly secured their weapons especially if they have children then less tragic accidents would happen.

If there were less gun violence in video games where the blood and guts is confined to the screen as well as in movies perhaps children would realize that guns are not toys.

My boys have never been allowed to play with guns or fighting games but I am a radical.

Much love


At 7:22 PM , Blogger yellowdog granny said...

hell, i'd give allison another chance..ha..
i am twisted about the right to bear arms liberty..
some people don't need to have a sharp pencil more less a gun...but i think it should be made a lot harder to get one..and an iq test should be one of them..cause some people are just to stupid to have a gun.

At 8:03 PM , Blogger Sling said...

jan- Thanks doll,you've helped me decide to do one of the above.

danielle- If we had enough logs,we could build a raft,..if we had some rope.
It is a tricky situation.The consequences,in any case,are more than I'm prepared to accept.

Yellerdawg- I confess,I have my own agenda,and was saving one bit of information for the comment section.
The 3-year old girl was the daughter of one of our very own Butte County Sheriffs,killed when she was left,unattended,with his service revolver.
Some people are indeed,too ignorant to be allowed to roam the streets with a loaded gun.

At 9:00 PM , Blogger sageweb said...

Oh Sling, I hate guns. Even though my grandma who I dearly love was a gun toting lady. (they just recently took them away because her sight is going) I just hate them for the reasons you just wrote about. Little kids. Stupid adults.

It is scary that some adults are even allowed to have them. (kids) We need a test before being allowed to have kids and then one for having a gun.

But I still wish nobody had to have them.

Oh and give Allison another chance.

At 9:14 PM , Blogger Mom said...

I hate guns. They scare me.

At 9:09 AM , Blogger Willym said...

I'm in the Give Allison another chance camp.

The gun issue in the States is so complicated - and it is a right to bear arms but with every right comes a responsibility. No responsibility - no right! Simplistic I know but...

At 10:36 AM , Blogger Lorraine said...

I feel your pain. My issue isn't with the 2nd Amendment, it's with the lobby that thinks any reasonable law that promotes the responsibility of which Willym spoke is necessarily an assault on that freedom.

As for Allison, I always loved the two of you together and wish for nothing more than you to reconcile and us being able to resume our Saturday night bridge game. Oh, those were good times....

At 1:00 PM , Blogger Middle Child said...

How do we address stupidity...maybe get all the filthy fluoride out of our water and toothpastes and stop dumbing us down any more... If you doubt the toxicity of fluoirdes just google Fluoride and poison...

thats another thread...sorry...

My dad and his etc were hunters... needs must especially during the lean years when we almost lived on rabbits and wild ducks (sorry people).
Thje rifles and shotguns were stored behind the marital bed but to this day I do not know where Dad stored the bullets and I was a nosey kid...

I think the Shrinks and GP's and the pharmaceutical companies have an awful lot to answer for as the more you look into it the more often it seems that the kids who shoot up the classrooms have been on antidepressants or Ritalin or some other thing...

don't know the solution, but wouldn't trust the Government and the big corporations who are adding so much shit to our foods and environment that its a wonder any of us are still sane anyway... maybe we aren't??? Sorry for the ramble rant... are you confused now?

At 1:13 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

How did I not know about you and Allison? As for the weaponry - I don't know what my opinion is on the matter. I've never held a gun or been in a position to need one. But my sisters new hubby keeps one in her young-boy-filled-house and it scares the piss out of me.

At 2:18 PM , Blogger Allan said...

It will be a moot point if we continue on our current path of Empire and conquest...all American children will be trained in firearm safety during Boot Camp. Except the rich ones, of course-they'll get to fly planes.

At 5:30 PM , Blogger Sling said...

sage- I was in the military,and have owned guns from time to time,even hunted for food.All things considered,I'd rather go fishing.
What was granny's weapon of choice?..just wonderin'.

mom- I suppose a healthy fear beats the casual attitude that lttle girl's father seems to have had.

willym- It is that simple I think.
I can't legally own a gun,having been convicted of a felony.That's as it should be.

lorraine- I can agrre with you ther.who really needs an Uzi for recreational purposes?..Nobody.
Allison cheats at bridge btw..It's on reason we're not together anymore.

middle child-See!..Those guns had a real purpose,and pops knew how to keep the kids from accidentally harming themselves ,or others..Good Man!

Hat- It's not surprising that you weren't aware of Allison and me.She's not really aware of it either. ;)

allan- Can't you just see our little brown shirted children,goose stepping down Pennsylvania avenue?..Maybe I should get a gun!

At 7:05 PM , Blogger Kari (GrannySkywalker) said...

The gun issue gets me, too. People say we have a right to bear arms, but what right does any regular citizen have to own an uzi or any fully automatic weapon? Hell, you have to pass a test to get a driver's license, but all you have to do is fill out paper work to get a gun. I'm with yellowdog granny...some sort of IQ test should be a requirement for gun ownership. I'd say that over 75% of the people I know who own a gun are too damn stupid to handle one without causing fear and possible loss of life and/or limb to themselves and anyone within shooting range. My own mother kept a loaded handgun in her nightstand. A fact she forgot to mention when my sister and I laid our children down for a nap in her room one day. Thankfully, we went back to check on them (they were both about 2 years old) just in time to take the gun away from my nephew who had gone exploring through the nightstand drawers.
I don't know...I just don't think handguns are needed by ordinary folk (I'm one of those who'd get a gun taken away from me and get shot with it myself). And automatic guns should never be owned by any ordinary citizen. Charlton Heston was a great guy and all that (may God rest his soul), but I don't think he was right in his support of a total right to bear arms. Some rules should be in place to protect the rest of us from those who think owning a gun doesn't mean knowing how to properly handle one.

At 7:12 PM , Blogger Sling said...

Kari- There is a handgun in our household.
It's kept,unloaded,in a locked safe.
You know,I'm ready to admit that the right to bear arms may very well be an archaic sentiment.Having said that,it will be a cold day in hell before I agree to anything that sets the precedent of altering the Bill of Rights.
I'm just too old school for that.
I'll leave that to the generations that come after me,and after I'm long gone.

At 8:57 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHile I'm not prepared to say all guns should be illegal (although I kinda wish they were), I do think there need to be much more stringent controls.

At 9:12 PM , Blogger Sling said...

citizen- Here's the deal.
I can't own a gun,I don't even want a gun.But if I did,I could lay my hands on one with a single phone call.
We can pass all the laws that are fit to print,but the bottom line is that anyone with a gripe can arm themselves.
This is what lies at the root of my concern.The fact that the purpose behind the second ammendment,has been commandeered by wolves..

At 8:32 AM , Blogger billy pilgrim said...

the right to bear arms originated i a society that was far different than society is today.

i think the right to bear arms in 2008 should be priveledge that can be taken away from lunatics and chronic offenders.

At 10:41 AM , Blogger rosemary said...

I give a two thumbs up for for the gun issue. I don't know; one day I am one side of the fence, the next day I am on the opposite side. Here is what I know. Idaho is a red/gun rights state. We are a hunting state. We have hunt camps where friends/buddies go to bond and bring home a seasons dinner and enjoy sport at the same time. Steve Seppala was hunting with buddies. He was shot in the back and died...he was wearing orange. No one has been found/charged in his death. He left a family that loved him and no means of support. Ban the guns....yup. Deny a person the ability to provide food for their family? Nope. conundrum for sure. An then there is the fact that I still call deer Bambi. But, this is a different issue from kids and guns. I just don't know.... we had one of the first school shootings in the nation right here in my little quiet state....well except for the loud noise made by Larry Craig.

At 7:44 AM , Blogger booda baby said...

Seriously, I don't understand. It can't be my blogger account and mine alone. I left a pretty long and pretty damned mediocre reply the other day after having spent MANY hours teasing out something worth saying and ... where'd it go? In the same session of commenting, I left one at Hat's. That, too, disappeared.

Not saying either one was worth reading, but it's a leeeetle suspicious.

And I'm actually not kidding. I'm not even a conspiracy theorist, and I think it's suspicious.


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